Can ChatGPT Make This Podcast?




Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton

Produced by Davis Land

Edited by Paula Szuchman

Original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop and Rowan Niemisto

Engineered by Alyssa Moxley

It’s writing podcast scripts, finishing students’ homework and correcting mistakes in computer code: ChatGPT, the A.I. chatbot from OpenAI, is suddenly everywhere. Who should decide how it’s built? What could go wrong? And what could go right?

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On today’s episode:

  • Aviv Ovadya, a technologist and affiliate at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society and a visiting scholar at Cambridge University Leverhulme Center for the Future of Intelligence.

Additional reading:

  • ChatGPT is inspiring awe and fear among users.

  • Aviv Ovadya proposes governing tech platforms democratically through “platform democracy.”

  • Meta’s Cicero AI is getting good at negotiating with humans.

  • Researchers are diagnosing Parkinson’s using a phone, a patient’s voice and a machine learning model.


“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Davis Land. The show is edited by Paula Szuchman. Engineering by Alyssa Moxley and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Hanna Ingber, Nell Gallogly, Kate LoPresti, Shannon Busta and Jeffrey Miranda.